Thursday, June 21, 2012

LSE or LSI


LSE: aren't usually meticulous about cross checking for accuracy; care more about efficiency and getting as much things done as possible (a side effect of expansive energy); factors important aspects of the problem into a solution very fast and organizes/structures things.

LSE are quite capable of looking at the things they have to do and prioritize, doing the most important thing first, but unlike the LSI, LSE, with their Extraverted Feeling role function, can stop to consider other people's feelings, are less impulsive, work with an easier, more methodical pace, having more preference towards Si rather than Se. Hence, the LSE isn't likely to drive the energy of their workers "overboard" focusing more on comfort and convenience of work. LSE are also more willing to take up and do things one at a time as opposed to 20 things at a time like the LSI.

LSE, with their weak orientation to dynamic introverted intuition, keep their eyes on the time.

LSI: check for logical accuracy presented by internal mistrust of what people show them or what they see; care more about priority over efficiency, as long as the most important thing is done now ; gathers a lot of information, follows this process of inquiry: doubts arise about an issue, seeks clarity through inquiry to understand and clarify the topic, formulates steps to act, repeats these steps in instructions to others. LSI always verify what people tell them if it doesn't sound right to them. LSI cross check documents to catch or eliminate discrepancies and look at what matches. Doesn't always take things at face value. Keeps information close to themselves. I often observe the type in an "analysis paralysis" mode.

LSI are busy conveying their understanding, category, or structure of the issues to others and in the process, they may interrupt others to repeat themselves or to make sure that what they are trying to say is getting through to the others; unlike LSE, LSI keep themselves busy; with the great expansive energy of Se, they are constantly focusing on details and mobilizing for tasks; these tasks usually circle around in their heads and they act on them impulsively, without thinking of the bigger consequences of things. They have an ability to not forget their errands, they can do as many things at a time, are abrupt and forward with others without really considering people's feeling objectively.

LSI, with their weak orientation to static extraverted intuition, miss out on how events can develop, potentially, focusing on the immediate detailed tasks at hand.

If I gave an LSE and LSI an example: I want to construct a test, there are common types and uncommon types, there are more of one than the other, I could study either one type or two to compare; how would you structure my study? Because an LSE can factor in all variables at once and because they are good at structuring WORK, they can give you the beginning model and help you set the pace of work. 

The common LSE response for structuring my test is:

1. The most common type will give you more data. Study the most common type first.
2. Study more than one common type, two at a time, because you'll have something to compare data to.
3.  Gather enough data, not too much so as you won't get gridlocking in information without taking time to interpret it.

LSI:
(In less of an organized fashion says):

Sort people by type or quadra, by sample size, study one at a time, spend an average amount of time (prefering Ni -prioritizing and time valuing) on each; to compare, you'll need two types, some things may be off; generally observe each type and after that go into more specifics of each type. 




Friday, June 15, 2012

Evidence for Socionics


According to the study by Anthony C. Little and David I. Perrett published by the British Psychological Society in 2007 (http://www.alittlelab.stir.ac.uk/pubs/Little_07_personality_composites.pdf), there is evidence for a measurable correlation between physical characteristics and personality traits. In other words, physical traits can predict, with some accuracy, personality characteristics of the individuals that displays them, and these personality characteristics are found with a measurable degree of consistency within individuals who bear these physical traits.

Americans seem more reluctant in general to accept socionics, particularly in its European-originated VI-centric iteration. This would seem, at least partly, to be based on the culturally instilled centrality of the individual to American society; a society so inherently predicated on the power and primacy of the individual personality and will would naturally be inclined to suspicion of a personality science that professed the ability to easily quantify persons into relatively inflexible finite groups.  

Wednesday, June 13, 2012

Socionics is not MBTI



Socionics is not an adjunct to the MBTI, nor are its findings synonymous, even though both systems result in 16 separate personality type designations. 

The following research on the MBTI will show you that this test is an unreliable measure of personality type:


MBTI measures personality with a written test consisting of yes or no questions, in which the test taker answers according to their agreement or disagreement with the declarative statement meant to indicate the personality. The problem with this test is that it relies upon numerous questions that are no way indicative of personality.


An example of one of these questions "You are usually the first to react to a sudden event:
the telephone ringing or unexpected question"  (http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp) is used to relate with extraversion. A person may be in an especially "excited" and in an energetic mood in a given moment which would cause them to react faster; that is not a measure of extraverted typical attitude, as indicated by Carl Jung's Psychological Types; not everybody's behavior is the same at any given moment and Carl Jung was very specific in mentioning that in his work. 


In addition, the MBTI separates personality types in a way that results in types which are inconsistent with the actual differentiation of human psychological patterns. Human psychological patterns are not divided along the lines of eight dichotomies of E/I, S/N, T/F, and J/P. Socionics measures the dichotomies together; they are measured in tandem, as they should be, for instance, Extraverted Thinking (Te). 


Furthermore, Socionics has a Visual Identification component, which identifies types not by the test taker's choice of answers, or by the test taker's particular preference for personality orientation, but simply by the configuration of the test subject's physical features. One can only assume that a test taker is answering the questions in a manner consistent with their actual emotions and thoughts, and that those answers are not being adversely affected by unique circumstances influencing the test taker's mood at the time of the test. But, even with all the makeup and hair pieces money can buy, looks fundamentally do not lie. The basic structure of the face and the orientation of the spinal column to the skull, which are key factors in accurate Visual Identification, can not be altered short of expensive and painful surgery. 

Monday, April 26, 2010

Introduction to Socionics


Derived from Carl Jungs Psychological Type and Antoni Kepinski's Information Metabolism, Aushra Augustinavichute formed Socionics to explain and differentiate 16 personality types, their interactions in interpersonal relationships and within society as a whole.  

Socionics benefits individuals by helping them to determine relationships, potential careers and social atmosphere that would be most conducive to their natural aptitudes and abilities.

Within the larger social context, Socionics can serve as a guide to the most productive and constructive means of interaction between persons of different types within the framework of larger social constructs. 

In the more immediate personal level, Socionics illustrates that every individual of any personality type has particular aptitudes and abilities that not only benefit society as a whole but also connect, in near perfect harmony, with individuals of a different complimentary type. These individuals, known as duals, combine their strengths with those of their dual to produce a collective partnership equipped to deal with virtually any interpersonal or inter-social situation in a constructive and productive fashion. 

It is my belief that the correct application of Socionics personality study can point the way to a generalized increase in individual self awareness and interpersonal and inter-social harmony. This science possess broad ranging positive implications to improve human interaction in realms as diverse as romance, career and aptitude counseling, and even harmonious conducting of the American party political process; there are not two ideals against each other, but 16.

This site will serve as both a generalized introduction to Socionics and an in depth examination of the 16 Socionics personality types. My hope is that through the explication of these types (complete with illustrative examples from both my own hands on research and from the personality type manifestations of well known figures in politics and popular culture), this site will serve to guide readers in determining their own types, those of the individuals in their lives, and how to use this science to better their lives and the world around them. 

Two Base Functions: Te and Se by Rasputin

Te - Extravert Thinker; Judging function
Se - Extravert Sensing; Perceiving function

Extraverted logic (Te)......external dynamics of objects: focus on activity of objects (location, time, speed, etc.), what we refer to as objective parameters, leading to patterns that we call algorithms and methods. Objective parameters are like variables in an equation that form an active system occupied with variables whose values are real people and objects.


Extraverted sensing (Se)......external statics of objects: (share, texture, impact, force, etc.), what we refer to as properties of an object or objective traits, leading to action toward objects via mobilization or arrangement, manipulation of force to achieve desired results.

Se is less introspective than Te because it focuses more on taking immediate action before thinking first due to it's orientation to apprehend external statics of objects, it's as though there is a compulsion to enact the external dynamics of objects once their statics are apprehended. Te apprehends external dynamics of objects, already seeing how force is shared between objects as a system and seeking to implement statics of objects through proper analysis and organization into a system.

This makes the Te more introspective function and the Se more active, spontaneous function. Te is still concerned with action, but planned action, action coordinated with the system, hence the notion of proper action, the proper way to do things, and concern with how things are arranged...all of which can be seen to derive from principle, the implementation of principles.


Tuesday, April 20, 2010

Introvert or Extravert?

Extraverted people are more outwardly directed;  the movement of libido or personality moves outward; which means they seek out objects, words, situations, characters of the outward world and Introverts move these things inwards drawing these things within them and in relation to themselves, essentially relating everything of the external world to their self, where they become the center of their observations; hence, for Introverts, libido is inward directed. Best way to imagine this is if there is  breath within the person and it is flowing outwards and trying to reach as much space outside as possible, this would be Extraverts; while for the Introverts this breath already exists outside and the introvert is trying to breath it inwards.

Level of activity, inward directed or outward directed, distinguished Extraversion or Introversion; for instance, I'm an classic Introverted attitude; I do a lot of reading but even thought this amount of work is energy and productivity I am doing it for different purposes; I, unlike Extraverts, am not looking at stuff outside of me, more stuff I just want to get down and share; a typical Extraverted blog like The MovieZombie (themoviezombie.blogspot.com) draws on information, or FACTS and observations, while mine is more based on internal intuition, my gut about things.

Se PoLR in EII type